Afraid of losing Robert Mugabe acts like petty dictator - Instablogs
Afraid of losing Robert Mugabe acts like petty dictator
Balbhadra Rana , Rajkot: Mar 18 2008
Made Popular Mar 18 2008
Robert Mugabe may be still revered by many in the Dark Continent as the man who raised his voice against colonialism. He has earned such respect amongst his fellow African leaders that none dare to raise their voice against the deteriorating situation...
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Andrewh1112
Oslo, Norway
For the sake of the people, let’s hope Mugabe gives up or dies soon.

He might have done good things for his country at one point in time but now he’s killing it!
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Mugabe runs the risk of being labeled a worse person than he is for he dared to raise his voice against colonialism. The imperial discourse has a way of turning the tide against one who dares speak against the white man!
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Andrewh1112
Oslo, Norway
What is your problem? Stop blaming my race for everything wrong you simple minded racist. If you have a problem with the British then say so. My white country never had a single colony and held no slaves.

Mugabe is hurting and killing his own *Black* people! He needs no help from the ”White” man to do it. And what is this about Colonialism? Mugabe is only in it for his own good now, his rule or no rule. Ask the thousands of Zimbabweans in South Africa, Botswana and the UK why they fled.

You are stuck in the past, Colonialism is dead, Mugabe is just another dictator that won’t let go.
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Thanks for the diatribe...this is exactly what is to be expected from the whites.
a) Colonialism may be dead for you but not for the people you robbed. Is it ever the case that robbers’ kids care about those whom their parents stole from? In fact the rich kids of thieves would deride the poor kids of being lazy and poor...any protest is seen as being trapped in the past...the reason is that the present whites do not care about the past. C’mon u say, what’s in the past in the past, buddy. But when you receive your welfare dole on time why should you care whether some poor African or Indian goes hungry. The buggers don’t work...the truth is that the whites are living the way they off stolen wealth, both tangible and intangible.
b) Mugabe: is a power-hungry zealot. But it is his nation and continent and as long as he wishes to throw usurping whites, it is fine. As far as other black ethnic people are concerned, let Africans decide, not some white guy in the Northern Hemisphere who cannot understand the curse of being without air-condition in about 47 C temperatures.
c) Any cursory study of history will reveal how obnoxious whites thought of black people and monkey-like natives as ”simple”. The very usage of the term ratifies my contention that colonialism is not dead.
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Andrewh1112
Oslo, Norway
Well I am beginning to expect nothing less from you. Too bad I can’t blame the whole of India for your laughable views.

A. My people did NOT rob any country. In fact my country *was* a colony for 500 years. Other Europeans took our natural resources, imposed their language on us and took the land from my people. Sound familiar?

As a lawyer I hardly receive any dole money, but I pay quite a lot of it I imagine.

Secondly my country is only rich because we found oil. Poorest country in Europe at one point.

I’d like to see you explain how my people is living on stolen wealth?

B. Sure, Mugabe lives in a sovereign African country. It is not just his, it’s the people’s. If the people of Zimbabwe ruled it freely I would be very happy for them. Except right now he *is* the problem.

As for air conditioning; speak for yourself you subcontinental ignorant that can’t understand the curse of -20 C.

C. The fact that people once thought black people were simple is a justification for the present existence of Colonialism? Haha, how very amusing. You will have to do better than that because that really was simple.
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As far as your specific location of Norway is concerned, I do apologize for my errors as far as -20 C is concerned. But then I am sure you can afford heating which many of my country men living in the Himalayas cannot afford to get.
Also I am sure that Norwegian jurisprudence did not teach you colonialism as a discourse. & I suppose the Scandinavians who trounced the Celts long ago are not from Norway!
Lastly, you seem to be stuck at the effervescence of law practice...you are unable to think straight, but then that is a precondition for being a lawyer all over the globe...u have commented on my tech -ideology article, read there too what i wrote and do not misquote me...
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And the white man can scream at us ”U subcontinental ignorant” making it sound like an abuse. I bow to superior intelligence castigating the nigger. This is the expected language of the race that produced Hitler. ( No point in saying, he is German and I am oh, a descendant of the blonde Nordic Gods: Hitler considered you guys true Aryans and the Norse did not protest)...I forgot : why r u so eager to tell me whether you are a lawyer or an unemployed person...we are talking about the larger pics here not your or mine individual grouses.
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Andrewh1112
Oslo, Norway
Why I am simply returning the compliment. You call me ”some white guy” I call you some Indian guy. Ignorant is what you are, but I hope to change that.

Where is my reply to the issue of stolen wealth? How did my country fit into your simple world view? Did we steal much from Africa? No?

Hitler was Austrian by the way. The Norse? They are our ancestors. Norwegians, thank you very much. And we did protest, with bombs and bullets actually. Of course we were overwhelmed and subsequently occupied.

Why I told you my profession? Read your own tripe and remember that you said we only cared about our welfare dole. I don’t receive any welfare because I don’t need it. A matter of pride to some.

As for the Celts I think you should re-read that Wikipedia article you surely looked up. Scandinavians we might be, but we are not responsible for our neighbors actions.

Norway settled unoccupied Iceland *with* the Celts. Or are you refering to something else? Our foundation of the city of Dublin? The Danes might have conquered England but they are only our neighbors. What has this got to do with Colonialism and exploitation of Africa again?

You cannot find fault with my country so you attack somewhere else? If you want to attack the British for their colonial attitudes do so but leave ”white” out of it.

And you do realize every culture on this planet has at one time in history attacked, invaded and occupied some neighbor or other? India ought have enough examples of that even before the Dutch, Portuguese and the British.

It even happened in Europe countless times. The most recent wave was just the turkish Ottoman Empire’s occupation and settlement of the Balkans. Worked out wonderfully in the end as you can see.
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I hardly ever refer to the Wikipedia, s could not care less for what it said. Your lawyer’s mind is well versed in sophistry so you twist and turn everything I say. I have indeed never been to Norway but in the southern nations only. That much I agree. You as a lawyer can fight for some one i you nation to receive dole. But even if I fought for an unemployed to receive dole, we just do not have enough money to give them. I have never talked of your nation in h singular, since you seem to be limited to web searches, i counsel you to read Frantz Fanon’s The Wretched of this Earth & Ranajit Guha’s Subaltern series of book. Guha had settled in Switzerland...your argument sounds sane enough but the fact is that the whites have been systematically treacherous and duplicitous. Your logic against baling the race for the crime of the individual does not hold even from the paradigms of Western philosophy...heard of crimes of the father etc. in the OT? one or two men here and there resisted injustice but most white people tacitly agreed to kick us all... Let’s enlighten you:
a) The Irish like you, bemoan their country’s state under the British, but when those same pretty people come here ( as hey did in the past) they hate us, not from the sense of being Irish;but from being white...you can never understand that since you have never been the victim of racism.
b)You are going on and on about nukes and Pakistan. Pakistan as far as I am concerned is a rogue state whereas India is responsible enough to utilize the technology responsibly. & again the division of india occurred because the British ( who feel as European as you though you would make s think otherwise)
goaded that rabid man, Jinnah.
c) C’mon, as you sit in your comfy well heated room, sipping that warming liquer, don’t you think you are better off not being in blackie country? Would you shift to india permanently? Never. Why? Oh i have everything here in Norway. Truth? You know we are poor and can’t give you the amenities that you have in your First world nation.
The Euro is strong because it has built itself upon the spilt blood of colored races.
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Andrewh1112
Oslo, Norway
I welcome your suggestions and have taken it upon myself to read the mentioned books. Reading parts of the Subaltern studies as we speak. The Algerian wars are already familiar to me.

I fear we cannot agree on your accusation that the entire European race(s) is uniquely to blame or in some way especially treacherous or evil.

After all my whole point is that you should at least try to limit your criticism to the countries that were involved in exploiting the world’s colonies.

Attaching the White race to every evil in the world is hardly an enlightened view. Are we somehow better or worse than any other race? Are we not all simply humans? Are we Europeans to be held accountable for the sins of our fathers? Or even the sins of our neighbors? That is what I object to. You claim that goes against Western philosophy - however it is clearly not the case for Western Law.

You demonize a whole group of people for the crimes of some European nations in the past. The people in involved are long dead - and even the nations that were have ceased to exist. The UK remains one of the few to have stayed much the same.

Today we freely admit that the people of that age were wrong in every way. Why can you not learn to forgive them for their folly? They truly did not know any better.

a. Generalizations on the views of the Irish people are hardly evidence. What evidence is there that they have such deep hatred of colored people? The Ireland I visited last year showed far more tolerance and welcomed the world’s cultures openly. I simply do not accept that all Irish are racists with inherent feelings of superiority.

b. Yes, of course, India is seen as much more trustworthy and civilized. However the point was that to freely distribute technology could even work against the interests of India. So I argue that the careful approach is the best in this matter.

And as you may well know one Pakistani man was responsible and sold his country’s technology to less trustworthy countries.

If you believe that Britain feels European you are mistaken. The UK is the greatest threat to European unity we have. Halfhearted Europeans at best! I blame their colonial past myself.

I can hardly see that the British were responsible for the break up of India into three nations. How could the unruly tribal areas of Pakistan ever be considered part of one Indian nation? Et cetera. An artificial construct cannot be expected to last forever.

c. I personally choose to refrain from drinking alcohol as I consider it a weakness and unhealthy.

I reject your trivial attempt at putting words in my mouth! I have never referred to your or any country as ”blackie” land. I have far more respect for people than that. Believe it or not I have close and dear friends from more countries and cultures than you have ever been to. Norway is not entirely homogenous any longer.

But I will grant you that I am amazingly lucky to have been born in my country. It’s like winning the lottery! Few Westerners realize their good fortune, even when they have so ”little”. I however do and live accordingly. Though admittedly I am a young man without family obligations.

Does that however mean I could not live in another country? Why ever not? I have actually considered my possibilities in for example India. I have extensive experience from the IT consulting industry and I am always looking for new unique opportunities. Something that would stand out on a CV is always good. And I do love warmer climates. So, yes, I could live in India.

Truly it is amusing that our peoples should argue over race, culture and what separates us when we have so much in common. So much central to our Western culture comes from India - and we know it.

I question your presentation of India. My impression of India is that of a country where the middle class lives in a First World zone and the rest outside it. From TV documentaries to online reports I see nothing but a country on the rise.

In fact some of my countrymen actually live and work in India now (callcenters). It’s seen as a rewarding alternative to working in cold Norway and with far greater purchasing power for your salary. Yeah, I would bring my European salary of course.


Firstly my country does not use the Euro, we are independent and have our own currency.

The Euro is absolutely not built upon the blood of colored races. It is interesting that you should bring it up. The British however I would argue still enjoy a strong Pound Sterling because of their legacy.

The Euro is built mainly on the strength of the German economy. The true strength of the Euro lies in the post-war German economy.

Germany did have colonies admittedly; they were spectacular failures in every way both financially and socially (genocide). However whatever use they might have gained from their possessions must be considered wiped out by the total devastation of their economy after the WWII. Heck, the Allies even took the German industrial secrets with them!

There was nothing left. The only reason the German economy is strong today is the American aid and the German people. None of it built upon colonies or foreign blood.

Now, the French economy was once propped up by their colonies. After the war that ceased to be as you know. The Franc was never a strong currency and their economy undermines the Euro even today. The Spanish were paupers up until the last decade thanks to the civil war. The Italians are unable to finance their budgets. Portugal is still a low cost country. The Dutch found oil. So it rests on the Germans to finance the European Union. I rest my case in defense of the Euro.
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you present a darn good case and I rest the whole of my case on your child-like simplicity. Touche.
Bon appetit to all of us in this great communion of brothers I say...
Merci, monsieur.
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Andrewh1112
Oslo, Norway
Haha, your insults are getting tired too.
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